Wednesday, February 3, 2016

Gold Rallies To 3-Mo. High On Continued Safe-Haven And Technical Buying; Silver Also Pops To 3-Month High

Gold Rallies To 3-Mo. High On Continued Safe-Haven And Technical Buying; Silver Also Pops To 3-Month High

(Kitco News) - Gold prices ended the U.S. day session solidly higher and scored another three-month high Wednesday. Once again, safe-haven and chart-based buying supported the yellow metal amid a still-uneasy world marketplace. Gold bulls also have building technical momentum on their side. Silver bulls got in gear today, also, and pushed prices to a fresh three-month high. April Comex gold was last up $16.20 at $1,143.50 an ounce. March Comex silver was last up $0.456 at $14.745 an ounce.
Gold prices were just slightly higher in late-morning dealings when a weaker-than-expected U.S. ISM non-manufacturing report was released, which gave the yellow metal a boost. The weaker ISM report also helped propel the U.S. dollar index sharply lower and put downside pressure on U.S. stock indexes, which in turn fueled more buying interest in gold. The other key “outside market” on Wednesday saw crude oil prices trade solidly higher, which also benefited the precious metals markets on this day.
Other U.S. economic data out showed the January ADP national employment report with a jobs rise of 205,000. This was a bit above market expectations but had little impact on the markets. The marketplace is awaiting Friday morning’s U.S. employment report for January. The key non-farms payroll number is expected to be up 185,000 following a strong rise of 292,000 in December.
Asian and European stock markets followed the lead of the U.S. stock indexes’ downside price action Tuesday and traded lower overnight. The world stock markets remain shaky and continue to closely follow the crude oil market.
Also unnerving traders and investors Wednesday were rumors that some big European banks may be in serious financial trouble.
Technically, February gold futures prices closed nearer the session high. Prices are in a choppy six-week-old uptrend and the bulls have technical momentum on their side. Bears still have the slight overall near-term technical advantage. Gold bulls’ next upside near-term price breakout objective is to produce a close above solid technical resistance at $1,150.00. Bears' next near-term downside price breakout objective is pushing prices below solid technical support at this week’s low of 1,115.30. First resistance is seen at today’s high of $1,143.00 and then at $1,150.00. First support is seen at $1,130.00 and then at today’s low of $1,124.80. Wyckoff’s Market Rating: 4.5
March silver futures prices closed nearer the session high and hit a three-month high today. While the silver market bears still have the overall near-term technical advantage, recent price action has been bullish, including prices now being in a three-week-old uptrend on the daily bar chart. A bullish “rounding-bottom” reversal pattern has also formed on the daily chart. Silver bulls’ next upside price breakout objective is closing prices above solid technical resistance at $15.00 an ounce. The next downside price breakout objective for the bears is closing prices below solid support at $14.07. First resistance is seen at today’s high of $14.765 and then at $15.00. Next support is seen at $14.50 and then at today’s low of $14.27. Wyckoff's Market Rating: 4.0.
March N.Y. copper closed up 415 points at 209.70 cents today. Prices closed nearer the session high and hit a four-week high today. Prices also scored a bullish “outside day” up on the daily bar chart today. The key “outside markets” were bullish for copper today as the U.S. dollar index was sharply lower and crude oil prices were solidly higher. The copper bears still have the overall near-term technical advantage. Copper bulls' next upside breakout objective is pushing and closing prices above solid technical resistance at 215.00 cents. The next downside price breakout objective for the bears is closing prices below solid technical support at the contract low of 193.55 cents. First resistance is seen at today’s high of 210.10 cents and then at 212.50 cents. First support is seen at 207.50 cents and then at 205.00 cents. Wyckoff's Market Rating: 3.0.
By Jim Wyckoff, contributing to Kitco News; jwyckoff@kitco.com
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The Coming Revaluation Of Gold

The current melt-down of the world's debt bubble is likely to continue in the course of the next months. The secular trend to expansion of credit has morphed into contraction and liquidation. It is my opinion that the new trend is now established and no action by any of the Central Banks (CB) that issue reserve currencies will do anything at all to reverse that trend.
Sandeep Jaitly thinks that the desperate reserve-issuing CBs - the US Fed, the ECB, the Bank of England and the Japanese CB - may resort to programs of QEP, by which he means "Quantitative Easing for the People". This quantitative easing will mean putting money into the hands of the populations by rebates on taxes, invented make-work schemes or any other excuse to furnish the people with the famous "helicopter money", to get them to spend.
As the present crisis deepens and given our experience with the way our so-called “economists” think, we can reasonably expect such programs to be launched. Nevertheless, the present trend of world economic contraction will not be reversed by any ad hoc program. The world’s expectations - positive for growth since WW II - have turned negative. This is an event of such magnitude that no “QE” will have any effect upon the final outcome: debt collapse.
The growing fear in the world's markets arises from the recognition on the part of indebted corporations and individuals that their debt burdens are increasing due to devaluations of their national currencies. International investors are attempting to reduce their exposure. “Hot money”, invested in countries which offered higher interest rates, now wants to go home. In recent years of bonanza, foreigners borrowed some $11 trillion dollars, in various Reserve Currencies, to invest in their own countries. Of this total, it is calculated that about $7 trillion of those dollars are denominated in dollars. The debtors are now attempting to pay-off their dollar loans, and this has the effect of lowering the value of their own currencies with respect to the US Dollar, thus aggravating the situation. There is a loss of confidence in national currencies, producing Capital flight to the rising Dollar, because the countries that issue those currencies are no longer able to maintain export surpluses against the reserve-issuing countries, and are thus unable to increase reserves and are actually losing these reserves. The export-surpluses are disappearing in the "rest of the world" because the reserve-currency countries, plus China, are in an economic slump (essentially attributable to excessive debt) and are reducing their consumption of imports, thus reducing the exports of the export-surplus countries.
The loss of Reserves on the part of the countries which depend on export-surpluses for economic health makes the accumulated debt burden in the world increasingly unsustainable; investors around the world are worried that some of their assets (which are actually debt instruments, that is to say various sorts of promises to pay) may turn out to be duds, and they are trying to find ways to protect themselves - and Devil take the hindmost!
Whatever expedients are implemented, the final outcome of the unprecedented economic contraction in the world will have to be the revaluation of gold reserves, as desperate governments of the world resort to gold to preserve indispensable international trade. The revaluation of gold reserves held by Central Banks will be the only alternative for countries seeking to retain a minimum of international trade to supply their economies, whether they are based on agriculture, on manufacturing or on mining.
The amount of gold held by any particular country will not be the important factor in maintaining operating economies, because even a small amount of gold will be sufficient for that purpose; the reason being, that gold coming into newly rediscovered importance, no country will be able to maintain either trade surpluses or trade deficits. The first case would imply that other countries are sending their precious gold to the surplus export countries, but the scarcity of gold and its vital importance will not permit other countries to lose their gold to the (would-be) surplus-producing countries. In the second case, the trade-deficit countries would immediately correct their activity by devaluing their currencies ipso facto, rather than continue to lose their precious gold to cover their trade-deficits: devaluation would put an immediate stop to the excess of imports over exports. Governments resorting to credit-creation to fund their deficits would find themselves limited to balanced budgets; otherwise, their budget deficits funded by credit-creation would spill over into excessive imports and the consequent necessity for immediate devaluation of their currency.
Only gold-producing countries will be able to run trade deficits, limited to the amount of gold they produce to pay for such deficits.
Thus, the revaluation of gold will have the beneficent effect of restoring the world to a healthy condition, lost a century ago, of balanced trade and balanced national budgets.
The discipline of gold as Reserves backing currency at a revalued price will restore order to a world that has refused to adopt the necessary discipline until forced to do so in the desperate situation now evolving, where there will be no other alternative but to accept the detested fiscal and financial discipline imposed by gold.
We do not know the true amount of gold held by the world's central banks, because it is a closely held secret. However, we need not know that figure. Whatever gold there is in CB vaults will be sufficient, for the reasons we have given.
Nor do we know at what price, in dollars, the price will be set, or how it will be set. However, given the truly astronomic amounts of debt in existence, a very high price will be necessary to "liquefy" i.e. make payable remaining debt, whatever the amount remaining after the purge which is now in process. The very high price of gold will mean that all debt instruments will be subject to large losses in terms of gold value. The revaluation of gold will reduce the weight of the present debt overhang upon the world.
The revaluation of gold does not mean that prices of goods and services will rise in tandem with the higher price of gold. Established prices will by and large remain the same prices that existed before the revaluation. However, prices will have to re-adjust to reflect the new economic realities. Many goods that we have taken for granted will disappear, as their artificial cheapness vanishes.
Another characteristic of a world that has begun to trade with gold-backed currencies as money, will be that one-way flows of gold from one region to another, or from groups of countries to a single country, will be impossible; such a flow would become a permanent drain on gold for some region or some country, and a permanent increase in gold for some region or some country. Eventually the gold would tend to pile up in some region or country, leaving the rest of the world with a lack of gold.
The oil-producing countries will have to adjust the gold price of their oil exports to balance with the gold price of their imports, plus the gold value of their investments abroad.
For a visual appreciation of the coming conditions, we have provided a few graphs. The first column illustrates the present condition, with present CB Reserves at $11.025 Trillion dollars, plus an estimate of CB Reserves of 31,110 tons of gold at $1,100 Dollars an ounce (according to an authoritative calculation of 183.000 tons of gold in existence at present, of which 17% are calculated to be held as Reserves by Central Banks around the world). The second column presents the present CB Dollar Reserves, below CB reserve gold revalued at $22,000 Dollars an ounce. The third column presents the present CB Dollar Reserves, below 50,000 tons of reserve gold revalued at $50,000 Dollars an ounce. We use the larger figure for CB gold, because some analysts think that China, and also Russia, have far larger gold reserves than they disclose publicly.

Why do we use $22,000 and $50,000 Dollars an ounce? Because other thinkers have estimated a necessary revaluation of gold, with various figures between a low price of $10,000 Dollars and ounce and a high price of $50,000 Dollars an ounce. So we arbitrarily selected $22,000 Dollars an ounce and $50,000 Dollars an ounce. Take your pick. The price and the quantity of gold in Central Bank vaults are really immaterial; the facts will be known eventually, and the result will be what we have pointed out above: the restoration of balanced trade and balanced budgets in our present highly disorderly world.
Once the world's currencies are "gold-backed", then the gold held by individuals, trusts or corporations will cease to lie lifeless in stocks of gold. All gold will have become money and will spring to life in furthering economic activity: the revaluation of gold by Central Banks will also revalue, simultaneously, the 151,890 tons of gold which are thought to be in private hands at present - 183,000 tons total, minus 31,110 tons held by Central Banks = 151,890 tons in private hands.
For China, the revaluation of gold means an end to the great export trade of Chinese manufactures, with the consequent inevitable, and surely very wrenching re-ordering of its economy. Perhaps this explains why the Chinese government has been urging the population of China to purchase gold.
China, which is rumored to have far more gold in its Reserves than it says it does, might have the opportunity to lend say, 50 tons of the yellow metal to each of 50 hard-hit countries, for a total of an insignificant 2,500 tons out of its large stash. In return, the recipient countries would place Chinese on the Boards of their Central Banks and as supervisors in their National Treasuries; in addition, China might obtain privileges to invest in the extraction of scarce natural resources or in agriculture - China has a huge population that will require establishing sources of food. Nothing comes without a price, and "he who has the gold makes the rules". The Chinese are well-known as consummate merchants and as people who know how to live unobtrusively in foreign countries. China's influence may extend around the world, with the world's return to gold-backed currencies.
For the US, the revaluation of gold means an end to its ability to obtain any goods it desires, in any quantity, in any place, at any price by simply tendering today's mighty fiat Dollar in mock-payment, in exchange for those goods. The US economy will have to suffer a huge and also painful, wrenching adjustment to its new situation in a different world, where balanced trade and balanced budgets are relentlessly imposed by the new status of gold as international money. On the positive side, US manufacturing will immediately spring to life to supply the US market; employment and incomes will surge with the rebirth of US manufactures.
Once all currencies are "gold-backed" by revalued gold reserves, then gold is once again the international money, and the Dollar becomes nothing more than the national currency of the US, as quantities of gold become the international means of settling trade. We need not worry ourselves about how this will take place, because that it will happen is a certainty. All prices of goods and services around the world will really be gold prices, since all currencies will be redeemable at sight, in gold.
Such is the significance of the coming revaluation of gold.

Gold Surges Above Key Technical Level

With the dollar tumbling and Dudley and Kuroda exposed as impotent, investors are rotating to the safety of not Biotechs but Bullion and Bonds. Gold just pushed above $1135 to 3-month highs, breaking above its crucial 200-day moving-average...


But will this break hold?

Tuesday, February 2, 2016

Gold is 2016's most beloved asset

gold bars illustration

Gold bugs are among the only smiling investors these days.

Prices have jumped 6% this year to $1,127 an ounce. That makes gold the best performing commodity and one of the only major assets to post a sizable gain in 2016.
By comparison, stocks have had a dismal start to the year: The Dowis down more than 1,000 points this year, while the Nasdaq has lost 8% of its value.
These opposite moves actually make perfect sense. Gold tends to shine brightest during times of stress. The precious metal is viewed as a reliable store of value for investors to turn to when they're worried about economic doom. And right now, there's no shortage of exactly that kind of anxiety.
Whether it's falling oil prices, trouble in China or geopolitical uncertainty, Wall Street has a long list of worries steering money towards safe havens like gold.
"As we have seen stock markets around the world tumble dramatically, the need to protect capital has increased -- and gold has benefited from that," said Juan Carlos, director of investment research at the World Gold Council.
gold prices 2016
Gold ETFs, or exchange-traded funds, are also humming along. Both the SPDR Gold Shares ETF(GLD) and the Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (GDX) are up nearly 7% apiece.
Gold's gains have come as commodities overall have crumbled under the pressure of oversupply and the slowdown in China. Crude oil has plummeted 18% this year, sinking to as low as $26 a barrel. Other metals like copper and palladium are down sharply. The Bloomberg Commodity Index, a popular measure of raw materials, tumbled last month to its weakest level since 1991.
"Gold is the winner of that game because it has the least industrial use so it's least affected by the global slowdown," said Axel Merk, founder of Merk Investments. which now holds about 20% of its assets in gold.
To be sure, gold prices remain well below their 2011 record highs of nearly $1,900 an ounce. In fact, just six weeks ago gold tumbled to a six-year low of $1,049 an ounce.
Gold fell out of favor last year due to the Federal Reserve's decision to raise rates for the first time in nearly a decade. The rate hike lowered the chances that the Fed's near-zero rates would cause a bout of severe inflation. That was bad for gold, which is seen as a hedge against inflation.
But now that trade is reversing. Investors are betting the global turmoil will cause the Fed to scale back its plans to raise interest rates four times this year.
"The Fed might have to do a U-turn after its historic quarter point rate hike," said Merk.
Of course, if the market is wrong and the Fed does raise rates three or four times this year, gold could take a hit.
Capital Economics doesn't think the gold rally is done. The firm thinks strong demand from China and India, two of the biggest consumers of gold, will help send the yellow metal another 10% higher to $1,250 per ounce by the end of the year.

Monday, February 1, 2016

James Turk – The Key To The Gold And Silver Markets In 2016

James Turk – The Key To The Gold And Silver Markets In 2016

With continued uncertainty in global markets, today King World News is featuring an important interview with one of the greats in the business discussing the key to the gold and silver markets in 2016.
James Turk:  “It has been nearly two months, Eric, since our discussion in early December where I said, “It seems reasonable to conclude that gold and silver prices have fallen as far as they are going to fall.” Since then, there have been a lot positive developments happening for both gold and silver…
I think the best news is the price action itself. Both gold and silver continue to pull away from their December lows. Each passing day improves the odds that the December low is the final low. In other words, it marks the end of the bear market and that the price will not be broken. 
More importantly, if the December low proves to indeed be the final low, it signals that new long-term uptrends in the precious metals have begun. That is the key point everyone needs to know, but we will only find out with certainty whether the final low is in place in the weeks and months ahead. When it comes to markets, anything can happen – both good and bad. And like I said back in December, they do not ring a bell at market lows, or tops for that matter.
King World News - James Turk - This Will Be The Key To The Gold And Silver MarketsKey To The Gold And Silver Markets For 2016
To look at some of the positive developments, it is very good news that both precious metals have hurdled their previous resistance points. That was $1,100 for gold and $14 for silver. Gold has now traded above $1,100 for six consecutive days. 
That small number of days is not enough of a trend to bet-the-ranch, but it is a start. It could therefore be the beginning of a new uptrend, meaning that gold will not fall back below $1,100. All we can do is watch the evidence unfold day-by-day and let each precious metal tell us its own story.
Another positive development is that gold’s and silver’s moving averages are turning positive. The short-term moving averages – like the 21-day and 55-day averages – are already trending higher. We now need to get further confirmation of the strength and durability of this uptrend by having the longer-term moving averages turn upward. Their 200-day moving average has been declining for months in a fairly consistent decline. 
The steepness of the decline is now moderating, so next will watch to see if this critical moving average starts to level off. Nevertheless, it is positive news that at the moment gold is trading above its 200-day moving average, which presently stands at $1,118. 
This long-term average has always been an important trend indicator. Given that gold has taken the first step by trading above this key hurdle, there are now two things to watch: First, let’s see if gold remains above this average, and second, we have to wait and see whether the average itself changes from its multi-year downtrend and starts trending up.
It is also very good news that the mining shares are moving higher along with the price of the precious metals. It is an important confirming indicator of bull markets when the precious metals and the shares of the companies that mine them are moving in the same direction.
King World News - A Stunning View Of The War In The Silver MarketKeep Accumulating
All in all, Eric, everything is falling into place very nicely for the precious metals, and the outlook for this year is bright. I therefore continue to recommend the same strategy that you and I have discussed many times before. 
Everyone should continue to accumulate gold and silver on a cost-averaging program by buying the same dollar amount of physical metal each month. By doing so you are building up your savings, which everyone needs, and best of all, you are saving sound money that preserves your purchasing power.” 

ALERT: Legend Warns Global Governments Are Now Preparing For Total Collapse

ALERT: Legend Warns Global Governments Are Now Preparing For Total Collapse

As global markets head into what will surely be another wild trading week, today the man who has become legendary for his predictions on QE, historic moves in currencies, and major global events, warned that the governments of the world are now preparing for total collapse.
Egon von Greyerz:  Eric, 25% of government bonds are now negative around the world. On Friday morning Bank of Japan was the latest country to introduce negative rates. There are now 13 countries with yields up to 2 years being negative and 10 countries with negative yields up to 10 years. I have been saying for a very long time that Japan is bankrupt and negative rates will of course not save their economy…
Egon von Greyerz continues:  It will just discourage savings and therefore investments. The main effect will be to lower the yen in the global race for all currencies to reach zero. So this move by Japan was yet another confirmation that the worldwide currency debasement race combined with massive money printing will create hyperinflation.
I said at the time of the Fed rate increase that it will only be a matter of time before rates in the US go negative. Markets are global and it is ludicrous to believe that the US can go in the opposite direction to the rest of the world. Short term we knew of course that the Fed had to continue their face saving strategy. Although economic conditions are deteriorating rapidly in the USA and the rest of the world, the Fed had to close their eyes to what is really happening in order to maintain a smidgen of confidence with the investment community.  But as we know, their eyes are closed because they certainly are not seeing what is happening right in front of them.
In their statement, the Fed said that labor market conditions are improving further. The Fed clearly has rose tinted glasses. The only new jobs are for the over 55s and for part time and service jobs. The real median income for a family has been going down for decades and the labor participation rate has declined for 10 years, with 95 million people capable of working being out of a job. I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can call that an improving labor market. It seems that the Fed statement is more and more based on hope rather than real facts.
KWN Greyerz I 1:31:2016A Triple Threat To The United StatesBut the real dilemma in the US is of course the subprime problems that are now developing instudent loans as well as in car loans and fracking loans. Add these three sectors together and we are already looking at several hundred billions of dollars of potential defaults. Before this credit cycle is over that will rise to trillions of dollars of real defaults, including derivatives in these markets.
Total Collapse
I would have thought that by the time of the next one or two Fed meetings, there will be some extraneous event that will give the Fed the excuse not to increase rates but instead actually lower them. And that will soon be followed by full-blown money printing on a global scale. Central banks have no other tools left in their armory to avoid a total collapse of the financial system. The dilemma they have is of course that you don’t solve a $230 trillion debt problem and a $1.5 quadrillion derivatives bubble by producing more of the same that caused the problem in the first place. Instead, the inevitable outcome of their attempted rescue will be currencies going to zero and inflation to infinity.
Talking about debt, Eric, are you aware that US federal debt has already increased by $800 billion in the first four months of the current fiscal year? If you annualized that, the US would have a $2.5 trillion budget deficit in 2015-16. But that will of course not be the result this year and even if it was, the figures would be manipulated. Eventually budget deficits will go exponential as the government printing presses start glowing.
KWN Cashin I 1:12:2016Oil Wars
The world is now in a very serious crisis and problems are flaring up everywhere. The geopolitical situation is deteriorating by the day. Libya is a sad example how the Allies are totally lost in their efforts to “save” the world. First Libya is totally destroyed by the Allies creating complete anarchy and a dangerous geopolitical zone. Now the Allies are discussing intervening in Libya again to stop Isis getting hold of the Libyan oil. Isis is already in control of some of the Iraqi oil. Sadly, there is no solution to the Middle East crisis where many regions including Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran all capable of leading to a major global conflict.
Oil is of course the major reason for the Middle East problems. But oil is also creating crises in many major Emerging Markets. The Brazilian wonder has come to an abrupt end with GDP down 4% last year and expected to shrink by at least the same amount in the current year. With commodities being 50% of Brazilian exports, the country is suffering badly from the collapse in commodity prices. And the Real has lost 40% in the last two years leading to escalating inflation and likely hyperinflation in the not too distant future.
Many other oil dependent nations are in the same conundrum. Azerbaijan is now in a crisis. This country relies on oil and gas for 95% of government revenue and 40% of GDP. Late December they abandoned the dollar peg causing a fall of their currency by over one third. On the black market the currency is worth half of the official rate. They have also introduced exchange controls as well as a 20% tax on exporting currency. Reserves plunged by 2/3 last year and are now only $5 billion. At that rate they will have run out of reserves during 2016.
KWN Turk IV 4:6:2015The IMF, World Bank And Global Crisis
The IMF and World Bank are now rushing to Azerbaijan to discuss a possible loan package of $4 billion. The problem is that these two organizations have a lot of countries in crisis that they need to visit in the next few months, like Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela, Nigeria and Saudi Arabia just to mention a few. But where the IMF and the World Bank will get their money from nobody asks. I suppose they can just increase world debt by a few hundred billion dollars. In any case that will be a drop in the ocean when the real global crisis starts.
Venezuela is of course another basket case with inflation expected to hit over 700% this year and with their benchmark bond at 27%.
So, Eric, just as I explained in my KWN article a couple of weeks ago, hyperinflation is now starting in a number of countries around the world. And no one should have the illusion that this is just an emerging market phenomenon. No, what is now starting in the periphery is going to reach the center. And it will be a lot worse of course as the $1.75 quadrillion debt and derivatives start to implode. Can you imagine the money printing bonanza that all the major Central Banks and the IMF are going to embark on?
What investors have to be aware of is that most banks will go bust before this is over. Take Italy. Their banking system is already bankrupt. €350 billion or 17% of all Italian loans are non- performing. They will now be sold off to investors with a government guarantee. So that’s another certain write-off for the Italian government on their way to bankruptcy.
All Bank Deposits At Risk
Any money “lent” to a bank by a depositor in any country will be at risk. 
In my view investors should not keep major amounts in any bank. That money will either be bailed-in, lost in a bank failure or inflated away by massive money printing. Remember also that the exchange controls that are now being introduced in many emerging countries will soon reach the US and Europe. At that point investors will not be able to transfer any money out of the country or there will be a tax on foreign transfers like the 20% tax in Azerbaijan.
KWN Greyerz II 4:17:2015Governments Now Preparing For Total Collapse
Governments are now preparing for total collapse, Eric, this is why investors must take action now to transfer funds to another country before exchange controls and before the dollar or the euro is totally inflated away. As I showed in my KWN article that I quoted above, physical gold is the best way to insure against the total currency destruction that we will see in coming years. After a 12-year bull market, gold has now corrected for 4 1⁄2 years. It looks like the correction has now finished and interestingly it has lasted for a typical Fibonacci 38% correction of the bull market.
Before the coming hyperinflationary phase is over, gold will reach levels that none of us can imagine. But what that level is becomes totally irrelevant. What is extremely important is that physical gold stored outside the banking system will act as insurance and protection against the total wealth destruction we will see in coming years.”